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Ok so this is the whole proof of life topic. So... it's pretty, it's very - we saw that evolve, and it's both gratifying and a bit alarming, and I'll explain why. So, personally, and the rest of the team at Wikileaks were very pleased that there was such an expression of concern about how we were doing. We expected all of these attacks and if you looked at my public statements and some of the statements tweeted by Wikileaks in the lead up to my Internet being cut off and that difficult diplomatic situation, we were saying, you know, the attacks were going to come in. We're going to need people to defend us, we're basically going to need an army to get through this.
And then the concern for how I was doing and why I wasn't being seen etc arose, and so the answer to this proof of life question is that we are interested in something quite different. So anything that we did that claimed to be some kind of proof of life would be to set the precedent on what a reduction, what mechanism could be used to reduce concern.
So the calls for example that I issue a PGP signed message - ok, well it's fine if you can understand that it's me that is issuing the PGP signed message. But a PGP signed message doesn't tell you who has issued it at all. It's just a claimed message. So let's look at what kind of precedent we would be setting. We'd be setting a precedent that when there's a concern about whether one of our staff has been kidnapped, or me, that concern can be alleviated simply with a issuing of a message of text, which is coupled to a particular cryptographic key. Now, if Wikileaks is under serious threat, then it's quite possible that it might lose control over it's keys. And the reality is it's quite hard to protect keys from that kind of interference.
The way Wikileaks manages its keys is to - it's submission keys for example - they are not used to sign messages. But even if they did sign a message in this case, would would it be saying? It would be setting a precedent that could be very dangerous in the future. You don't have to produce the person and show that they're not under duress - you can either hack a Wikileaks key, or take control of infrastructure, or take control of a person and then have them, or rather claim that they had produced some signed message. So, we're much more interested in a situation, in creating a precedent for proof of life, in creating a precedent for proof of freedom from duress, or making it hard for our people to be under duress.
And the best way to do that is live video. Because even if you were under duress - and there are various forms of duress that could be applied - if it's live, you've got a few seconds to put things out, you can slip in code words with what you're saying - I'm not buy the way, I'm not - you can slip in code words in what you're saying that people, your people, could then see.
So.... yes, I'm alive, and free from duress, but I am in a very difficult situation. I have been for 6 years. Lets not think that I'm not in a difficult situation. As I've explained, this embassy is surrounded by high-tech police operation, intelligence operation - it's a really difficult situation. I haven't seen the sunlight in four and a half years. It's a tough situation. I am tough, but, you know, you should be concerned about the situation.
And what we had hoped is that those people concerned with my safety would direct their attention to those people who are responsible for this situation - that's the UK Government, the US Government, and the Ecuadorian Government. Now, some of you did. And that's quite possibly why the Internet was put back on - because of that expression of concern.
But, when the concern became very prominent, the result was a black PR campaign trying to infest the concern and take it off somewhere else. And largely succeeded. That was very interesting to watch and play out.
What happened... Fabricated messages claiming to be from our staff were posted on 4chan, reddit, etc. On videos claiming to be from Anonymous. Completely fabricated. Dozens of them. And what was their intent? What were they calling for? They were calling for people to not trust Wikileaks. To not give it leaks, and to not give it funds. I mean, it's obvious who benefits from the production of such a black PR campaign. And it should be obvious in hindsight to all those people who are trying to support me that those type of messages were deliberately intended to undermine Wikileaks, and in fact to undermine my support.
So if this sort of thing happens in the future, think to yourselves: is what is claimed undermining the ability for Wikileaks to operate, the ability for it to get new information, and the ability of it to financially support itself? And if the answer is yes, then you should be extremely skeptical about what the claim is.
But, we are... having seen how concern for us can be manipulated and misled, but also the degree of concern, we now have a game plan if this kind of thing happens again. And we're pleasantly confident about the kind of worldwide support we can get if we get a similar type of attack again in the future. And once again, you can see that I'm speaking, and maybe apparently sane, but don't reduce your concern. I am in a difficult situation, that's the reality. But the difficulty of the situation is well expressed on justiceforassange.com, the UN findings, etc. Wikileaks itself is also, it's staff, is also in a difficult situation; constantly spied upon, harassed, etc. So yeah...
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There's some people saying I should... because of the advances in technology in relation to video editing and audio etc, that I should try and do something that... establishes what I'm saying I'm saying now as opposed to.. these questions were planted and said from some time ago. We'll, it's a, I have to say it is a little bit silly. Not in relation to us being under pressure. We have been under a lot of pressure, but we're very good at resisting pressure. But in relation to whether I'm alive or kidnapped, actually it is a bit silly.
So if you look at people at like John Pilger for example, long term friend of mine, runs my defence fund. Is a famously brave investigative reporter. My lawyers, close friends, people like Laurie Love, the Ecuadorian Government - if you think about the number of people who would have to conspire and the amount of work that would have to be done to produce these false images, there's too many. That's a social proof, and to understand that, one needs to look at the costs and understand the costs involved in trying to pull together all those people and trying to keep a lid on them, and engage in all these kinds of fabrication technology which does not yet exist in a capacity... as far as anyone can tell in a capacity to do what it's done. To do all that, that's the cost, and then to what benefit? That's an interesting question.
So in thinking about real-time proof of life. Well, intellectually the most interesting one is to take the most recent block in the blockchain, the Bitcoin blockchain, give the number and at least 8 digits or something of the hash. And then maybe to throw out this hash by sign language. That's kind of intellectually entertaining. But, what is the problem with it? (Well, let's see if I can get a recent hash...). While it's intellectually entertaining, the problem with it is this: it's very complicated, the underlying technology. And so it has the same flaw that sophisticated voting machines have - cryptographic voting machines. Which is the average person can't understand whether the security claims are in fact borne out. Now, experts might be able to - but the average person can't. So now you're back to a social proof. Does the average person trust the expert? And so how do they know that those experts are really experts and haven't been compromised?
So in fact while it's intellectually entertaining, it's not at all a good type of proof of currency to argue upon anyway. So this is block 445706, and the hash is 178374f687728789caa92ecb49.
Ok, I think I made a mistake in the block number. It's just going to drive everyone crazy. So the block number 447506 - see this is how you can tell it's real time is the mistakes. Hash: 178374f687728789caa92ecb49. Ok - intellectually entertaining. You don't have to read out the whole hash number, maybe 8 digits or something combined with the block number would be enough to show currency within a 10-minute, hour period, something like that.
But actually, the better way to show currency is news that can be widely checked, is widely spread, and is unpredictable before it happens. The best would be a few different natural disasters, maybe a lot of weather measurements. And
|What were some of the greatest challenges you faced when setting up Bank Transfer Day? Did any of the banks retaliate against you personally?||The time commitment that was required that first month was a huge challenge. I ended up putting my life completely on hold to give the campaign the effort it deserved. There have been a handful of banking executives who have tried to discredit me, but they haven't gotten very far. There was one side effect I didn't expect— the FBI has apparently added my name to the Selectee List. I can still travel, but I'm scanned, patted, swabbed, searched & interrogated every time I fly.|
|That is sickening to hear.||Meh. I try to keep a sense of humor about it. All you can do.|
|Well you annoyed the big players in the world, its a shame they have to use such tactics rather than making there companies better.||Sadly, I think a sense of entitlement may be preventing these corporations from taking a hard look at how they could be more appealing to the average person.|
|Think of it as a pre-flight massage.||Haha. Next time they pat me down I'm going to mention that I have a kink in my neck that I'd love for them to work on.|
|They are not entitled to anything, people can vote with their money! But you are right though.||The sooner bankers realize that no one is entitled to anything he or she doesn't earn, the sooner they may be able to salvage their organizations' public image. Companies must be mindful of how their actions impact communities if they hope to receive patronage from this new civic-minded generation of consumers.|
|People are getting more savvy with there money. And people wont stand for any crap these days! I am from the UK and have just found one in my city that i am interested in. Thanks for doing this IAma! I didnt even knew they existed.||Glad to hear from an international supporter! If you're in the UK, you may be interested in Cooperative Trust. I've been following their work since Bank Transfer Day, and it's really impressive! James Marshall, the leader of this fantastic group is based in London.|
|Thank you for answering this (again) I wanted it in the main Thread so everyone can see the answer. I am reviewing my options now. I am very excited to move to a Credit union and take my money away from these greedy banks.||You're very welcome! Let me know if you need anything else.|
|Do you own or have the rights to "Bank Transfer Day?" Who owns or has rights to "Move Your Money?" CUNA owns "Everyday is Bank Transfer Day," but those other pieces? Relatedly, who maintains the Bank Transfer Day social media outlets (e.g. twitter, facebook)?||Although I originated the name "Bank Transfer Day" and "Every day is Bank Transfer Day," a credit union league filed for copyright of the latter phrase without my knowledge or permission. I asked that it be turned over to CUNA so that it might be used for a national level campaign, but that never happened. I've never filed for copyright because I wanted this movement to belong to every person who supported it. Attorneys have advised that should anyone else attempt to copyright, there's adequate proof of origination. There are a couple of volunteers help curate content. They've asked to remain nameless due to the threats I've received for my involvement. I remain personally active in the social media channels as well.|
|Glad to hear your decision to not go the IP route. Do you have plans to formalize any sort of organizational structure?||Not in the financial sector. I see access to data as a service Americans desperately need but co-operatives currently can't provide so I'm putting together a steering committee to start a national-level telecommunications co-operative. Anyone who's interested in joining the steering committee can send me a private message via Facebook.|
|I'm involved in an attempt to mutualize our fiber-based municipal telecom in my hometown. Are you talking about that sort of telecom, or is the aim more at the wireless market?||Sort of similar. There are a handful of region-based telecommunications co-ops, but I'd like to see one on the national level to compete with the "big guys." I really like the Phone Co-op's model, and they've been kind enough to offer guidance.|
|What do you think about the Big Bank's lobbying Congress to remove the non-profit tax exemption from credit unions? If passed, this will crush the credit union's ability to compete against the banks. Check out Link to www.donttaxmycreditunion.org.||I've been very supportive of the "#DontTaxMyCU" campaign. I think bankers must have a big brass pair to try for something like this. At the end of the day, our votes put candidates in office; no amount of campaign contributions can do that. They might have money, but 1/3 of all Americans are members of a co-operative... and that number's growing every single day.|
|What's it like having your first name and last name being remarkably similar?||It's actually pretty awesome! People don't seem to easily forget it, telemarketers struggle to pronounce it, and people randomly sing Night Ranger at me.|
|Is that your married name? Or did your parents choose that combination for you?||Please read back through the comments to any of the 100 times I answered this before. Thanks! :)|
|Why was this removed? has it been moved?||I'm not sure why reddit has removed the text for other users. It's still viewable on my screen. Trying to contact moderators now.|
|Well when you get it figured out please let me know.||Looks like they've sorted it. Phew!|
|Real quick, I currently have Chase, I hate them and get charged on an average of $40 in fees just to bank . How do I find a credit union to move my money to ? I am Queens , NYC||I've found that the best resource for finding a credit union in America is A Smarter Choice. If you'd like, you can also comment on the Facebook wall & I'd be glad to ask for personal recommendations from other supporters.|
|You are super awesome , Thank you. I am looking into the A Smarter Choice now. if needed I have your Facebook added already and will post there (Facebook is how I found out about the AMA )||Glad to hear it! Please don't hesitate to ask if you need any help finding the perfect credit union for you.|
|Have a "big bank" contacted you and try to change your mind on your cause?||I think most bankers were smart enough to know I wasn't going to change my mind or back down. The CEO of a "big bank" did call to apologize for the online behavior of one of his executives. This was after I'd emailed screenshots of the posts and proof of the person's employment to the CEO & members of major media.|
|Do you have a financial background? If you had a $100,000 in cash and your house was paid for, how would you invest that money?||I don't have a background in finance. It seems to me that the three most important services for the next several decades will be food, finance & data access. We're blessed to have great credit unions & food co-operatives, but lack a national-level mobile phone co-operative. I would use the $100,000 to fund such an endeavor.|
|I don't think you have much of a concept of how little a dent 100k would make on a project like that...||I don't think you realize how far I'm capable of stretching a dollar. The entire Bank Transfer Day campaign was run on $10. :)|
|YAY for credit unions! I used to be the marketing manager for a big single-seg credit union. Loved our members, and loved the credit union philosophy even more. Question for you... how do you feel about the idea that credit unions are starting to act more like 'banks' and the ABA's lobby to start taxing credit unions?||In which ways do you feel credit unions are beginning to act more like banks? The efforts to eliminate the tax exemption status are ridiculous, at best. I see it as a last minute (and incredibly desperate) attempt to strong arm consumers into banking with them. If Senate allows this, there will be a lot of lawmakers out of work next election.|
|How did the experience of orchestrating BTD change you personally?||I hardly recognize the person I was two years ago! I've found myself becoming more & more aware of how the simple choices I make can have a significant impact. Being in the public eye has made me appreciate every ounce of privacy I still have. Overall, I feel as if I've found my calling... to promote co-operation both as a business model & a way of life.|
|Hi Kristen. As you know my company did a lot of quantitative & qualitative research on the impact of Bank Transfer Day. One conclusion reached by both research methods was that many people (even the unhappier ones) ultimately stay with a large bank because the mobile or other technology is simply more advanced there. In your work with credit unions or community banks, what do you advise them about meeting the needs of people-and especially younger people-who want the convenience of advanced digital 'banking' methods?||Technology is going to play a huge role in acquiring & keeping members. I recommend that credit unions take advantage of the services many of their great vendor companies offer to provide resources like shared branching, mobile banking, remote check deposit to members. With a completely branchless model, I think PSECU is a great example of the banking model of the future.|
|The lack of technology, remote deposit and poor shared branching (especially internationally) is what keeps me away from CUs.||That's a common misconception. Many credit unions have embraced mobile banking & remote deposit as part of the frills offered. I travel internationally fairly frequently & have yet to have an issue anywhere I've gone.|
|It's not a "misconception", its my personal experience. Show me a CU that offers the equivalent to BofAs mobile banking app (check deposit, bill pay, xfers, etc) and doesn't require me to be a former military member or something.||Off the top of my head, PSECU offers everything you mentioned.|
|Yep, PSECU does all of that as well as provides your credit score for free each month.||Just when I think I can't love PSECU any more...|
|Which the average person isn't eligible for. I have no relations to higher Ed in PA. This is one of the problems of CUs in my opinion - the requirement to be part of some subset.||Banking lobbyists have successfully prevented credit unions from offering small business loans or expanding membership fields beyond the last inclusion of the relative/live/work/worship clause.|
|Either way - regardless of how it happens. This is one of the reasons CUs don't work for many people.||Instead of complaining about the symptom, why not help fix the problem?|
|Nothing is ever 100% positive. In your opinion, what advantages do the big banks have over the average CU?||The only advantage banks seem to have currently is their ability to sway lawmakers through campaign contributions. As for my personal experiences— Banking with BofA was a nightmare, at best. It's been nothing but smooth sailing at my credit union. I have access to more conveniently located ATMs than I had with BofA, lower interest rates on my lines of credit and the profits from my banking business is used to invest in my community. All around win.|
|So CUs are always better for all people? Come on. I know you are an advocate, but even you can't be so naive as to think that.||I believe nearly every American would benefit both for themselves & their communities by joining a credit union.|
|OK - nearly isn't every. What kind of American wouldn't?||I've yet to come across an American who wouldn't benefit from co-operative membership, but if I do meet one I'll let you know.|
|What is this? A credit union for ants?...||Hey, even insects deserve equal access to affordable financial services! Haha.|
|Do you think that the "Big" banks are starting to get the message, that the power lies with the people, or are they still on a path that is not good for most Americans long term? TRANSLATION: Do they really not give a crap about the average Joe and Jane 6-pack working hard for a living and still scraping by? Link to www.facebook.com.||I think "big banks" have heard the message, but I don't think they're ready to admit that their business practices led to the largest consumer shift in American history. Instead of improving the business model, bankers are pressuring Senate to eliminate the tax exemption status of credit unions.|
|You are more powerful than sarah kerrigan?||Quite possibly. If only there was a way to know for sure...|
|Funny you mention that, the CU's have been running a student loan consolidation through the cuGrad program. You know SoFi is Morgan Stanley right?||I met Ian Brady from SoFi at the G8 Summit Innovation Conference. He assured me that the lending was coordinated through donations by alumni, but I will definitely dig further into this.|
|Very innovative group there, I will send you some info. Also, check your FB for some info I just sent on our Google Hangout series, very exciting interviews planned.||Awesome! Will do.|
|Do I still celebrate Bank Transfer Day if I dont pay any fees to bank? What day is Bank Transfer Day anyway?||It wasn't so much the fees themselves that set me into motion, but the principle behind them. To me, the policy was symptomatic of an overall problem within for-profit banking structures. Bank Transfer Day began as a Facebook event & quickly became the largest consumer migration in American history. You can learn more about it on Wikipedia or Facebook.|
|You don't honestly believe you've changed anything, right?||I don't believe that I singlehandedly changed anything. I believe that working together millions of Americans changed a few things. First, their transfers allowed credit unions to continue offering responsible loans with low interest rates to small business owners. Second, these loans combined with how many employees were hired by credit unions, Americans saw the unemployment rate drop. Finally, we illustrated that if a girl with a laptop and $10 can reach millions of Americans then campaign funding is no longer as vital to a candidate as it might have been in previous elections.|
|I live in the Las Colinas neighborhood of Irving, TX near Dallas. Do you know of any credit unions in my area that would be the best to check out? I am middle class and will use direct deposit several times monthly. I do not own a home or any large assets and usually use online banking. I'm with Chase currently and want to get away from them. My credit is not the best either. I am not really sure where to start or where to find out which credit unions in my area are the best. Any suggestions?||I found several credit unions near you on A Smarter Choice, but I'm not personally familiar with any of them. If you'd like, I'd be glad to ask Bank Transfer Day's supporters for a personal recommendation; they're great about that. Just send me a private message via Facebook.|
|When you first created the Facebook event, the location of the event was listed as "Occupy Wall Street." How important do you think the Occupy movement (which was peaking in OctobeNovember 2011) was to the success of Bank Transfer Day?||It's a common misconception that the Facebook event page had listed the location as "Occupy Wall Street." The best answer I can think of is that there were several factions of OWS that created secondary event pages that people may have seen. While I appreciated the support that was received from various groups across the political spectrum, I wish that leaders of groups like OWS hadn't chosen to cause disruption & break laws in the name of Bank Transfer Day.|
|Now who will step up and create a bank or credit union that has LEED platinum buildings powered by renewable energy that also invests in renewable energy? There will be bike parking and the thermostat will be set to save power (my CU has it at a frigid 73 F and when I asked what they invest in they told me T bills.) ??? are you the one?||Speak to your credit union about their energy usage. Start with the branch manager. If he/she doesn't listen, go up the chain of command until someone does. On the off chance no one listens, take it to the next board meeting. You're part owner of your credit union. Speak up.|
|How mad are you that you parents named you Kristen Christian?||Not at all. Besides being memorable, it's a great way to screen telemarketers... they can never pronounce it.|
|Oh, and it's more than a little satisfying to overhear a FOX reporter practice your name over & over. MUAHAHAHAHA.|
|Haha, it is very unique! I like it :-)||Me too. :)|
|I have a friend who is thinking about switching from a Credit Union over to Chase because "they're more convenient" with regard to locations and teller hours. What can I do to sway her back to responsible banking?||It sounds to me like maybe she didn't choose a credit union that suits her needs. There's a credit union out there for every single person. I bet she'd be happy as a lark if she joins one with shared branching, online/mobile banking & remote check deposit. If she'd like help finding such a credit union, I'm always glad to point consumers in the right direction. Either of you is welcome to send me a private message on Facebook for personalized help.|
|How do you feel about regional banks -- specifically (if you know of it) Umpqua bank in the Pacific NW?||While some smaller banks do invest in their communities in amazing ways, I'm still wary of for-profit banks for a couple of reasons. First, I want to have a say in how my financial institution is run. Unless I'm a shareholder at a bank, I have no say. Secondly, a corporate bank can buy out a community bank without customers even being informed. I believe wholeheartedly that co-operatives are the best option for consumers.|
|Why was the original bank transfer day on a saturday?||November 5th 2011 was just a deadline goal. I chose the date as a goal because it was about a month away when I created the event & Eddie Colla had just sent his icon image of an American flag superimposed over a Guy Fawkes mask. The stars seemed to be aligning, so I went with it.|
|Some argue that there is no escaping shadow banking. How much impact does moving retail account money into credit unions make on the shadow banking industry?||I can't give you a definitive answer, but I will say that I started the campaign with no expectations & a belief that every dollar can make a difference on the local level so I've already far surpassed my own desires for the results of BTD. Every little bit helps.|
|I used your organization in the advocacy section of my thesis, "Financial Speak: Unmasking the Criminal Discourse of Wall Street." Your work is a big part of the consciousness raising effort needed in finance. Thank you.||That's really awesome! How was it received?|
|Will do. I'm looking forward to continuing our conversation.||Same here!|
|Did you change your name for the publicity value, or are your parents totally unaware?||If I was going to pick a "stage name," do you honestly think I'd choose this?|
|What are your thoughts on Public Banks? There is a few state level legislatures in my state that are keeping the idea a alive in the WA State congress. I think they sound great for state, county, and municipal banking needs.||I think they could be of benefit to particular communities and definitely better than a "big bank," but I still believe wholeheartedly that co-operatives are the overall best option.|
|Did you marry into the name Christian, or did your parents not think through the mouthful that is 'Kristen Christian'?||It's my given name. Funny thing is, I never realized how strange my name was until I moved to LA a few years ago & everyone asked if it was fake.|
|Why use a bank? They are all scum in the end. Use cash or bitcoin as much as possible.||A credit union isn't a bank, but rather a not-for-profit member-owned financial co-operative... so each is only as "scummy" as its members.|
|They still have employees to pay, CEO's still take huge salaries. They are just slightly different than a normal bank.||I'm confused. Are you advocating that people not be compensated for their time & labor? The difference between the salaries of CEOs at banks & credit unions is staggering! Check out this CUTimes article.|
|Wow. You sound like you are trying to do a commercial.||That's a great idea! We should do a commercial to reach even more people.|
|Facepalm. At least you are positive. Have a good day.||You too!|
|Do you have any examples you can point me toward?||Off the top of my head, PSECU.|
|Why did your parents pick a first name so similar to your last?||When I was adopted at a young age, my birth name had been "Cristin." My folks decided that the best option would be to change the spelling of my first name to minimize confusion & allow me to keep a part of where I'd come from. Nearly 30 years later, I think they made the right choice. I've come to really love my strange little name.|
|I am very pleased with your response as most people would ignore such a question but I don't know anything about banking and I was curious. Enjoy your weekend!||If someone takes the time to ask a question, surely I can take time to respond. Have a great weekend too!|
|You are a wonderful person Kristen! When is the next bank transfer day?||Thank you! I like to think that everyone is wonderful in their own way. I feel so very blessed to have this experience, but due to the violence perpetuated by groups that supported the first deadline goal, I won't be coordinating another event like the first Bank Transfer Day. I do plan to continue commemorating the original date both publicly & personally. Last year I spent November 5th speaking for Credit Union Legislative Action Committee before returning to the privacy of my hotel room to read letters & posts from supporters. It really is so touching how so many of you take the time to reach out & encourage me along the way. Something like this is too much for one person to take on alone. I really couldn't have done it without each & every single person who lent their time & talent.|
|I have huge commitments with a bank which include a mortgage for over a hundred thousand dollars. Can a credit union take on that kind of debt or is it just where you deposit money to get around banking service charges?||Credit unions offer all of the same services that traditional banks offer. The main differences the average consumer would notice is reduced interest on loans, higher interest on checking/savings, profits from your banking business are put to work in your community and as a member-owner you have a vote in how the institution does business. On the back end that a consumer may not notice, CEOs are typically paid far less and front line staff are paid more than for-profit counterparts. If you have huge account balances or business loans, it could be tricky, but I can put you in touch with your state's league & ask them to help you find a credit union to suit your needs. Just let me know.|
|Just pick a credit union with branches all over the country. Both Veridian and Collins Community have branches all over Iowa, I assume they're nationwide as well. John Deere is pretty much only in Waterloo / Cedar Falls, I assume that's who you went with?||My credit union has a limited number of branches. I like that their focus is specifically on the community that made me the woman I am today. Yet... I can bank anywhere in the country & even have no issues traveling outside of the US because my credit union participates in shared branching.|
|Cool story br ||Shared branching is pretty cool, huh?|
|Why do you have two first names?||Why don't you?|
|I'm not special =[||Maybe you just haven't found that special place where your talents & passions meet. Don't stop looking!|
|[NEFCU 2.5% interest on checking account. ](Link to www.mynefcu.org Credit Unions are the best.||They really, really are. How long have you been a member?|
|Switching to a local credit union is among one of the best decisions I've made in my adult life.||I'm so glad to hear that! How has membership changed your life?|
|I don't believe they do.||As a member-owner, you can ask them to! It's made banking so much easier for me.|
|"... people can vote with their money!" How dare you! You are now subscribed to lifelong mandatory TSA searches.||In fairness, it was a bit more complex. The hacker group Anonymous claimed credit for Bank Transfer Day... effectively saying I was a member of Anonymous, which I'm not. I understood being initially investigated & even being put on the list. It bothers me that they haven't figured out yet that I'm not a risk.|
|Big bank employee checking in. Keep doing what you do. I really do work for the devil.||Thanks for stopping by & having a sense of humor. If you ever feel like leaving the dark side... CU Insight posts about credit union jobs.|
|Just wanted to stop by and say hi Kristen. Bank Transfer Day is an awesome concept, There is something in it for all, regardless of political affiliation. And that the person behind it all, is one special human being who cares! Other than that.. you inspired me to join Reddit today!||Hi! Thank you! You're too kind. I think a lot of people care, but just aren't sure what they can actually do to impact positive chance. I'm glad you joined reddit too! It's a great community full of thoughtful people sharing fantastic ideas.|
|I haven't banked with an evil big bank since I was in high school . . . and I'm not young anymore. ;-)||That's great! Have any of your family or friends made the switch because of your recommendation?|
|No question here, just support and solidarity. I participated in the first Bank Transfer day as a part of my local Occupy encampment, and switching to a local credit union has been a decision I've only been happier for doing! Thank you for your organizing efforts!||Thank you! It's been amazing to see how this simple & direct action was appreciated by so many people. There are a lot of things Americans disagree on, but I think the vast majority of us believe that our communities need & deserve our support.|
|I feel the same way. I feel like a total geek sometimes because if anyone ever asks anything about banks, I effuse wildly about my c.u..||That evangelism is so common amongst co-operative members, but relatively unheard of in any other sector! Kind of makes you feel all warm & fuzzy.|
|You do realize that the big banks are probably thrilled that they are losing a lot of accounts with small balances.||If the "big banks" were thrilled, I doubt they wouldn't have rescinded the new policy two days before the original deadline goal, nor would they now be lashing out by pressuring lawmakers to eliminate the tax exemption stays of credit unions.|
|Is your middle name Cristian.||No. No, it's not.|
|Quick! Say your name 5 times fast!||Okay, but only if you join a credit union. Bribery.|
|I'm 21 and have no clue what a credit union is! =D.||Check out this awesome video explaining the differences between banks & credit unions: CLICK HERE|
|So glad you could do this, Kristen. There's a lot of misinformation out there, but we're gaining ground! A big 'Thank You' from your friends at Alliance Credit Union in St. Louis...||Thank you! I hope everyone at Alliance is having a fantastic day!|
|2 years ago I saw your Bank transfer day Facebook page and it encouraged me to abandon my crumby BofA account and join a credit union. Huge thanks!||No, thank you! Without the support of so many folks, the Facebook event could never have turned into a full-blown movement. I'm so glad to hear you're still happy with your choice!|
|I will preface that I make no apologies for the lack of political correctness of this question I ask... Is there a tacit quota on how many black girls you hire? Fact is I know you need a couple of black girls in the mix for the sake of variety but you hire too much and your club will be considered "the black strip club"? Or, do you hire as many as you want and just space out their shifts so too many are not on the floor at the same time?||There is an unwritten rule that is followed. Once a club goes black you can never get it back. We play a lot of rock and techno type music and keep just a few black girls to keep this from happening. What's funny is that the black girls we have don't like it when we hire other black girls and the black guys that come in to our club are typically middle to upper class and would never step foot in a "black club"|
|the reason they (the black strippers) don't like when you hire other black strippers is because they are afraid that there "spot" is in danger...this is exactly like black pro wrestlers in the 70's who didn't like new black wrestlers in the territory||Not so much their spot as their money. In a white club the black girl gets the black girl money but if there are more then one on the floor the few guys who like black girls then split that money between them and its a competition. Its hilarious when you hear them say that they dont like ghetto ass black girls when they themselves are exactly that.|
|As a former dj. yeah, you got it exactly. the mid range clubs in D/FW area generally did 8-1 w-b girls. there are, or used to be all black clubs, but they generally looked like stereotypes from a bad movie.||Bullet holes in the front door, blood stains on the carpet, metal detectors at the entrance. Yea, this looks like a great place to have a few drinks and let my guard down!|
|How often do you get laid on the job?||Never, I bat them away almost daily. Two days ago a very attractive dancer told me that she masturbates while thinking of me and although not easy turned her down. There are girls who when in trouble will grab my cock, bat their eyes, push their tongue into their cheek and Say "but I don't have to be in trouble do I?“ this is a career ender. Managers who stand the test of time do not screw their dancers... Bartenders rarely, but never a dancer. A whole slew of trouble comes from screwing a dancer, they tell everyone, you loose respect, and they expect special treatment. They no longer work for you, you work for them. Simply put, to answer your question, Never. My girl at home is way better looking then most of the girls and doesnt have any of the issues.|
|I'm reading all your answers with Kenny Powers' voice in my head.||Favorite comment so far. You deserve gold, just not from me.|
|How does your girlfriend feel about you working in this kind of environment and anti social hours?||She is ok with the enviroment because she knows I'm a good person but the hours drive her banans and puts a strain on our relationship. This is why so many managers date bartenders. Because they share the same hours and get to see eacother enough.|
|Does this get you any respect? I can imagine there is a whole slew of different types of women at a place like that, but has anyone (not the girls that try it) ever told you that they respected you for not giving in to this? Or is it just anger for not letting them get away with stuff?||I have had three different reactions. There are the girls who were once sweet as could be, would help me with small tasks etc but then completely wrote me off and acted like complete bitches when I shut them down. I have had the girls who are ashamed and embarrassed and then there are the girls who feel appreciated and valued as a person rather then a sex object. From then on They treat you like their father or big brother and are the best dancers you will ever have.|
|So how many bartenders have you screwed?||No comment, If your going to be with a bartender you better be ready to have a relationship and even then shit may get weird working together. It's best to just date outside of your club. It doesnt hurt to go to other clubs where the girls know who you are because then the limitations are lifted but you still have a name for yourself which makes it easy.|
|Ahh...your girl is reading this, isn't she?||She is completely unaware and thinks Reddit is nothing more then the funnies I've shown her on the front page. Lol.|
|> She is completely unaware and thinks Reddit is nothing more then the funnies I've shown her on the front page. Lol.|
|What about the owner?||He was Black Mailed once so I think he learned his lesson. If your going to screw a bunch of strippers be prepared to be lonley but have meaningless sex all the time. We get old and want more even as men.|
|How much money does the club make? How much do the dancers make? How much do you make? Is it difficult to open up a strip club?||My club generates an income in the Millions every year. Personally I take home between 68 and 73k a year depending on how well the club does. I have a few smart and focused dancers who make over 100k annually but most of my dancers don't make over 40.|
|How did you get into this job? When your were young did you ever think you would ever work as a strip club manager or something similar? And do you have any funny/creppy story to tell?||I never imagined that I would be managing a strip club I always pictured myself doing something in the medical field however like most people I just kind of fell into the business. After the Army, While in college, I worked for a typical night club doing security part time. The club was closing and the owner was a decent guy and tried to help everyone get a new job. Around this time the owner of several strip clubs in my area called him and asked if he knew anyone that was primed for management. He said that he would send anyone he knew his way and this is where I came in. I was told to lie my way into the job and was more then welcome to use his name as a reference. Mentioning his name got me the interview. The day of the interview I was sat at a large round table with 4 older and very well dressed candidates. After waiting for what seemed like an hour the GM of several clubs stepped through the double doors across the room holding a steaming cup of coffee and a cigarette. He confidently walked over to his chair, put his coffee on the table, his cigarette in the ash tray and then leaned over to me seated directly to his left, exhaled a lung full of smoke into my face and shook my hand. Everyone stood up and reached across the table to shake his hand except the man directly across the table who couldn't reach and had to walk around. He interviewed us all in a group setting going through our resumes one by one probing us on our qualifications. It was more then obvious that I was the least experienced person in the room that day and was certain I would not be getting a job. Towards the end of the interview the GM got very serious and said that in order to be considered for the position we would all have to submit a Urine Sample. He looked everyone in the eye seemingly simultaneously and said "does anyone have a problem with that?" everyone responded at the same time with different forms of no. Nobody had an issue with it and after a few awkward seconds of silence he let out a loud bellowing laugh and said that there wouldn't be any drug test today. I was laughing right along with him,reached out grabbed his coffee mug, stood up and loudly said "Are you sure because I'll give you a urine sample right now, no problem! He laughed some more and with a cigarette between his index and middle finger pointed at me and said. "First day on the job and you're already making jokes about pissing in the bosses coffee. I like you, I havd just the club for you. show up to (smallest club they had) on Monday, you'll be training with Chris. I looked at the other guys and smiled looked back at the boss, shook his hand and walked out before anything about that moment could change, and that's how I got my start.|
|Did you ever have sex with one of the girls who worked there? If so how did it go? And tell us some crazy stories that happened in the stripclub :)||When I first started in the industry I made the mistake of sleeping with two new fresh out of the box 18 year old first day strippers. It went on for a few months and was Amazing! The rumors started circling and I got nervous. I lost a lot of respect and almost lost my job. Never Again. I want to take these girls up on their offers all the time so it's not easy, especialy when they throw themselves at me. Luckily my needs are well taken care of at home.|
|They come in boxes?||Yes, Delivered by U.P.S Wait For it...|
|That had to have been great. Two 18 year old's learning to get their nasty on...those memories will serve you well in your middle age...||Or if i ever go to prison.|
|What's the weirdest/funniest/least relevant song that's been played while a girl's dancing? My friend told me he heard Let the Bodies Hit the Floor the first time he went.||Peanut Butter Jelly Time. Lol, She put her hands on her hips and just gleamed over towards my DJ... He started fist pumping and she cracked up and just went with it. It was a slow Monday and someone paid him too do it. The customers were smiling and laughing so I just let it ride.|
|I will pay you in bitcoin to get a video of something like this||Oh, it can be done. Couple questions... What kind of guarantee do I have you'll actually pay? What song do you want to hear? And what kind of women do you like?|
|Whats the weirdest request asked of a worker?||I'm not sure. Nothing comes to mind. A dancer once came to me in a panic telling me her bag of cocaine was stolen and asked if I would help her find it. I was stunned and just looked at her waiting for her brain to click in and realize who she just asked to help her find her drugs. It never did.|
|I'm assuming she was fired?||Suspended to day shift for a week and we had a long talk. A strip club without strippers is a lonely old bar. We tolerate a lot of nonsense.|
|Do you ever try to push them in the direction of getting some help for their addictions? Keep a local AA/NA meeting list on hand? A strip club with strung-out or OD'ing strippers is a sad old bar.||Noone knows because I send them home if they are messed up. My DJ, security, or myself usually catch it before a customer sees. I don't try to help these girls get off drugs. You'll regret giving a damn everytime.|
|This comment makes me really sad. One of my friends just started working at a club earlier this year.||I have plenty of good girls who dont drink, smoke, or do drugs. They make the most money and typically save their money to open their own business or go to school.|
|How do you pick the girls?||They apply, and if they are good looking enough their first night is their audition... No girl is an employee, they are all independent contractors.|
|Mmmm, the sweet sound of no vicarious liability...||Thats right!|
|Interesting... Do you assign them shifts or supervise them when they are on the job? If so, then to what extent.||Nope, Be here before 7 and there is no fee to work, Every hour after 7 the fee goes higher and higher and higher. Most girls are required 3 shifts a week except for the "Club Dimes" they pretty much do whatever the fuck they want.|
|Level with me now - Is there really no sex in the champagne room?||Very rarely, and when it does happen it's always very awkward and uncomfortable looking because they're trying to hide it and have to contort themselves in awkward position. We have cameras in the VIP and champagne room and if it's being done either my vip security or dj know. some security and DJs will look in the other way for a nice tip. Personally I dont go looking for trouble and would have to stumble on it but if I did see it I would stop it immediately. Usually the girls just meet guys after work and are paid to hang out. They are just using the club as a way to get new clients. The majority of my girls do not take part in this and the ones who do I am typically aware of but at the same time don't care.|
|Does the cameras have microphones too or do you only check on the VIPs visually?||The microphones only record if I press a number sequence on the alarm. This way if robbed and made to deactivate the alarm it goes into silent mode and a phone call is patched directly to the company where they can hear what is being said.|
|How many have died in your club?||None, but some kid got shot in the parking lot a few years ago when he and his friend chased a guy all the way to his car. The guy grabbed his gun and opened fire hitting one of the kids in the gut. He grasped his belly and ran back into the club squirting globs of blood everywhere. It's all on camera and naturally we recieved a seizure warrant for the footage. Word of advice... Never commit a crime within 40 yards of a strip club unless you're wearing a mask and not driving your own car.|
|What is the easiest way to get a nut off after a night of drinking and going to the strip club as a last ditch effort? Drugs? Be charming? Act like I have $? Spend $ on dances? Or. Try to find the girl who turns tricks?||Become a regular at the club, be generous, become known and liked by the girls. That's your best shot at some random drunk night last ditch effort fuck.|
|Is it true that the girls aren't paid, that the only way they make money is with the money guys throw on the stage and private dances?||In my area yes, in other areas the girls make the minimum wage a waitress would. Which is irrelevant because if if it were my club I would just turn around and charge them their hourly wage right back so it would be a wash and on top of that fine them when they were late. Dancers pay to work, it's income for the club. Think of the club and security as pimps. We provide protection and a safe place to work they provide us with a percentage of what they make.|
|How do you know what they make? The clubs In my area the girls normally have some sort or purse they just stuff the 1$'s into.||Yes, but their private dances (the real money) is tracked. Also, I have a close working relationship with the highest earners at my club and we have discussed their earnings.|
|I used to be a dancer at a pretty "swanky" club in Dallas. They charged me separate fees for everything! For the house mom, the DJ, and to dance that night. I was anxious about all of this until my "boss" informed me that no-penetration sex, aka bjs etc, are a-okay...and then I got really anxious,... *1. How many girls go through the dance license process that never come back after their first night? *4. Do you ever warn your girls that stripper clothes/shoes/dancing in general is VERY expensive to start up? Or is it fairly cheap in your area? *6. How do you pep talk curvy, or just generally un-confident girls?||In my area there isn't a license required for dancers. Just the club. Anyone can try out. I do not warn girls about dancer gear. For about $200 you can buy two outfits and a pair of shoes in my area. I don't hire big girls, we have one and that's enough and she thinks she's a god damn ballerina. For the girls who are nervous I give them a partner which is always one of my kinder, sweeter, non drug addict dancers who will really help them through . I usually don't have to pep talk my curvy girls, they are always full of confidence. Rarely I have to push them to get more dances and then I just tease them about how their just there to party instead of make money or tell them daddy needs a new pair of shoes silly shit like that.|
|*3. What are the fees you charge your dancers for the amenities?||Fees depend on what time the girls show for their shift the later the more expensive so it's tough to to be specific.|
|*5. How many girls have gotten in fights with CUSTOMERS and lost their right to work at your venue over the years because of it?||I've fired several girls for fighting customer but the girls I have now know to tell me what happened and then walk away because I'll handle it.|
|Ive always wondered why strip clubs arent more active on social networking sites. I would love it if local clubs were more active on instagram/twitter and the like. Im sure there are plenty of times I would drop everything I was doing and drive right out because I saw "Dupree" was wearing X or because girls x, y, z are all working the same shift. I know alot of the girls dont want to show their face but that can easily be worked around. Is the thought that guys will just spank it to the pictures posted and not bother coming in?? a fear of showing the public what their product really looks like?? Or just reluctance from the girls to be pictured in any way??||I have every one of my dancers who have been there for a month or more as a FB friend and post a lineup everynight of each girl on shift and tag them in it. Every friend of the clubs FB and the girls FB is alerted. I started this when I took over my club. No other club in the area does this. Shhh. Great Idea BTW.|
|Are there any girls who don't want you to let their whole friends list know that they are adult dancers?||I'm sure there are, they just block those people from seeing posts they're tagged in. There's a privacy setting for everything on Facebook.|
|I know its a job, and we all gotta earn money. But in alot of cases, girls working as dancers often do have some issues with themselves/something that has happended to them in the past. Do you never feel guilty sometimes? Or wish in anyway (if you know of a dancer with a horrible background) that you could help them out?||Everyday, I keep reminding myself that it's not my fault, and if not for me they'd just work for someone else. After a few months in the industry you don't look at them the same. You see them lie, cheat, and steal and you loose some of that softness in your heart. Don't get me wrong I do have some good hearted girls that are excellent mothers and decent people these are the girl who make the most money but most dancers are sex robot junkie criminals who will rob their best friend.|
|Are you friend with some of the dancers or is it like, strictly professional and you wouldn't say "hi" if you saw them in the street or while shopping at the mall ? Edit : wrong word.||It can sometimes be awkward seeing them on the street, especially when it's Walmart, they're with a customer and he's buying them hundreds of dollars worth of groceries. Or your at the mall with your girlfriend and daughter and your eyes lock. They act like they never saw you and slink away. But, like always, there are acceptions. There are a few who my girlfriend is very friendly with however we never hang out unless we happen to bump into each other while out. What's really strange is when you bump into a guy who's been in your club and with his wife standing right next to him insists that he knows you from somewhere but doesn't know where and no matter how many times you tell him you don't know him and just have one of those faces he keeps insisting. It's always funny to see the moment when they realize why they know you come across their face in a panic when finally they sheepishly agree with you and walk off.|
|I get not saying hi when a girl is wit a costumer, off course.. but when you're with your girlfriend / daughter ? What's the big deal ? Why not say a quick hi ?||Its not an issue for me. It's usually the girl who makes it weird.|
|Do you have to pay off either police or local criminal organizations to avoid harassment?||I am unsure about the police, But we are very close with the largest local biker gang in the city and are protected from organized crime.|
|Whoa can you add more to this?||They stop in on busy nights to check on us and have put the word out that we are under their protection. Only a nobody who doesn't know anyone would try to rob us simply because he has no clue what he's getting into. If someone came in shooting the place up that person would most definitely disappear. You have to understand that these guys are not bad people. They are our police when the police cannot be.|
|How are they compensated?||That's above my pay grade and thankfully I have no idea. Somethings are better to not know.|
|How did arrangement come to be?||Truthfully I cannot discuss it without giving away too much detail and put myself in a situation where I may no longer be anonymous.|
|It's the warlocks isn't it? They protected a club I worked for in FL.||I will not provide any insight into this subject matter for reason of self preservation. But thanks for posting!|
|What are your thoughts on the Easton Byfield case? He's the strip club bouncer who kidnapped, beat and robbed a patron in the bathroom while another employee video taped it.||He's a punk and I hope he gets mouth fucked in prison. I hope that's clear enough.|
|Do you utilize your pimp hand or is there a more effective method?||Hurt these girls $ and they straighten right up. Put them on day shift for a week or take away a weekend and they are angels for at least a week or two. They may run to another club for the weekend but they're uncomfortable and want to come back home.|
|Is the owner a gangster like Toni Soprano or the 1% MC gang in the area? How do you get along with the neighbors, LE etc?||Our owner is an intelligent mid 40's playboy. You'd never think twice if you saw him on the street. Our closest neighbors is another club and we get along well enough.|
|What's your hours like? And how often per week etc.||Officially... Tuesday - Saturday 7pm-3am but it's not uncommon for me to come in a few hours early or few hours late. I'm the GM and little extra stuff is normal. I probably put in 45-50 hours a week which is nothing compared to my last job and I make substantially more $.|
|Answer if you'd like... You say substantially more? Are we talking money I can live off of and have walking around cash, or just getting by? I've always wondered what the average income of strippers and club GM's was. Obviously they make rent or no one would do it, but nonetheless.||Around 70k a year the person I replaced moved to the next bigger club in our chain and does 110 - 120.|
|Do you ever rent out the place to private parties? I could imagine those kinds of arrangements making hours longeshorter.||No Private parties. We have regular customers and that would not be fair to them. We will set aside a portion of the club with plush leather couches and a private stage though!|
|How often do people "make it rain"?||All the time. Usually these are the guys who want to look a certain way at the club. Typically the guys who spend the most do not tip much on stage and dont need to make a spectical of themselves but rather spend their money quietly in the back.|
|Do you require your girls be open to going private with both genders? While men bring most of the money, some women can too no?||No requirments but these girls could care less if its a man, a women, or a cross dressing pirate handing them money.|
|What is the policy of girls working on their time of the month?||LOL, They all sync up and one week out of the month you have 40 emotion basket cases all bleeding at the same time. We would have like three or four new girls for that week if we didnt let them work. You do know that womens menstration periods sync up when they spend a lot of time around one another right?|
|Wow, I guess none of them are on hormonal birth control (like the Pill) then. If you are on the Pill, your period always comes during the 4th week of the pack, regardless of who you are spending time around. If they work during their periods, are there ever any, um, accidents? Also, what girls tend to make the most money - are looks the only factor?||I am sure some of them are... All I know is that one week a month I have girl after girl asking for Tampons. I have had a customer upset because he was bled on and the girl was mortified. He obviously did not pay. The biggest earners in the club are the girls with the best hustle and personality. My best looking girl is an idiot and makes shit compared to most of the girls. She isn't fun to be around and just sits around waiting for guys to walk up to her.|
|How long do the girls last in the job? i guess the ones that make a lot tend to stay long period of time but what about average ones or ones below average? also what makes them "stand out" from other girls? the dance? looks? i figure most of the girls are above average in terms of looks... so do they have some sort of aura that attracts customers to become regulars?||I have a core group of about 15 girls that wil be with me for years. the others constantly revolve around club to club escaping problem after problem being forgiven over and over again. Looks make a girl stand out but what makes a good dancer great is their personality and sex appeal its not all about looks. I have a knockout who is Nuttier then squirel shit and she doesn't make nearly as much as some of my much less attractive down to earth girls you can talk to. Trying to respond quickly forgive my grammar, spelling, and punctuation.|
|How much money should a guy bring to have a decent time without dropping cash in the back?||If you wanted to you could come in, drink sparingly, tip slowley and have plenty of interaction with the girls on and off stage for around $50.|
|I worked in the strip club business in Vegas as the marketing director...we just did an all nude club that didn't serve any liquor until we got our license. Couldn't you do the same out there?||Nude + Liquor is a no go here. But some places just attach a bar so you walk through a door and drink across the hall and then walk back across to see the girls.|
|Hmm funny. I used to live in Tampa and all the strip clubs there are Full Nude No Liquor. Mons Venus and Odyssey 2001 have been voted very high even in world wide rankings.||As long as there is a seperation from the club to the bar they can have a "seperate bar" still attached to club where patrons can walk between the two "seperate businesses."|
|The one strip club in my town doesn't serve alcohol. I never really understood why. Does it have to do with limiting potential trouble makers/gropers?||All nude clubs do not serve alchohol and I think the lawmakers thought naked women and alchohol meant trouble. I'm not sure what the explanation is behind this.|
|How pathetic are your regular clientele, really?||Day shift clients... VERY Nightshift Clients are middle to upperclass and dont seem pathetic. Some of the younger guys seem lonely and just want someone to talk to. the older guys always seem happy and secure in life just big ole perverts wanting to play with girls half their age. My Club is a big party spot for younger people both men and women who just want to have a good time. only about half of my customers come for the strippers.|
|Do a lot of guys wear jogging pants?||Only the smart ones! That and basketball shorts lol but mostly no.|
|What kind of start up capital do you need to open a strip club? Can it be done with a loan, or do banks avoid investing in a strip club?||You need a lot of capitol to open a strip club. As far as bank investments I don't know. The first step is securing a building, liquor license and adult entertainment license zoned for your building. After obtaining these three things you can find investors bank or not.|
|As a member of the strip club business in vegas as a marketing director...i sometimes felt embarrassed of my job and often at my wifes family functions always veered away from discussing my job, even if I'm praised by friends as the luckiest man in the world... How does your family feel about this business, and do you feel the same when discussing the job?||Yes, I hate it. No one says a word and when the men and women split all the guys get all hush hush and start asking me questions. Its very obvious when one of the women look over and I am the center of attention whats going on. My GF Hates it and so do I. I have considered taking a hefty pay cut. 30K+ just to not be in this field any longer.|
|Why not just lie about your job, and say it's whatever you did before you became a manager?||I do, My GF on the other hand has to tell everyone.|
|Have you ever run across an American born stripper that was not bat shit crazy? Is there a different mindset or level of craziness between foreign and domestic strippers?||I have never had an out of country stripper, just out of state and girls from up north are slick little gangsters. Every last one of them have a real "I'll cut your ass" attitude.|
|Any crazy stories of having to literally throw someone out for being an over-the-top asshole? Ever have to call the police?||All the time and all the time. imagine it and it has happened.|
|One night, I had to deal with a problem. A girl and I headed for "VIP", mostly lap-dancing. Charge by the songs.. i counted up to 3 songs. But i ended up to leave early. But she lied to me. she said i went thou 5 songs. Had to call the manager, he went with her side and had to pay for the fake songs THEN he got the bouncer to kick me out. How would you deal with that?||We have a VIP man who counts songs and dances. His word is gold with me. If that were to arrise The customer would have to appear sober and convincing enough for me to check cameras. 9 times out of ten I'm going with my VIP man.|
|How often do you hear about gross feminine issues?||Too Often, WAY too often.|
|What's the wierdest you've heard?||Guys paying a girl to allow him to go down on them... I don't get it and it truly disgusts me. Maybe it's because I know where it's been but that's just wierd and strange to me to want to stick your face in a strangers crotch and pay for it.|
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